The Rawness

This is the final installment of Pimp Week. For this, it’ll be a straightforward post. I’ll be finishing the story I started in these two posts here and here.

When last we saw the pimp Iceberg Slim, he was being tested by his newest, prettiest whore in front of the rest of his stable of older, more experienced whores. He held his ground, passed the test, impressed his existing stable and called the new whore’s bluff and told her she could leave, making her whole grandstand play blow up in her face.

Here’s what happened next:

I went back for Kim. She was packed and silent. On the way to the station, I riffled the pages in that pimp’s book in head for an angle to hold her without kissing her ass.

I couldn’t find a line in it for an out like that. As it turned out the bitch was testing and bluffing right down the line.

We had pulled into the station parking lot when the bitch fell to pieces. Her eyes were misty when she yelped, “Daddy, are you really going to let me split? Daddy, I love you!?

It’s important to note that Iceberg was ready to ride the bluff all the way to the end if he had to. No matter how much he wanted her to stay, he was only willing to do so if he could keep from kissing her ass in the process. This is a good lesson to learn for both men and women: do not be outcome driven. Outcome driven people just care about what they get in the end and don’t care how they get there. Process driven people care more about doing something the right way, even if it gets them a bad result once or twice.  In the long run process driven people end up better off.

For example an outcome driven person may just know that she wants to get her boyfriend back. She will grovel, beg, threaten to commit suicide, let him disrespect her and walk all over her, maybe buy him expensive gifts as a way to bribe him to stay, or maybe even allow him to cheat on her in exchange for her staying…basically, so long as she gets the outcome of him staying, she doesn’t care what damage she has to take to her self-respect, ego, character or reputation along the way. Not only is what she gives up way more valuable than what she gains, buy chances are she’s too stupid to even realize that she did give anything up. A process driven woman on the other hand may approach it the same situation like this: “I want to resolve my relationship with my boyfriend, but I’m not tied to any particular outcome. All I care about is that no matter what happens, I speak my mind, hold my ground and don’t compromise my ideals or values. If he knows what I want and is willing to respect that and stay, then we’ll stay together. If not, then we’ll split up. But either way, the important thing I stick to my guns all the way through.”  In the short run, she may lose this particular boyfriend, but in the long run by sticking to her principles, she will definitely end up with a good man sooner or later.

A person who would drop out of school and strip for a whole lot of cash now rather than get a low-paying internship teaching valuable skills that will lead to a real career down the line? Outcome driven. A person who would is willing to just work hard and be honest and risk not getting promoted right away rather than kiss ass, lie and backstab his way to to the top? Process driven. You get the picture.

Now in some ways pimps are outcome driven because they choose the glamour, excitement and fast money of pimping over the slow grinding climb of a “square” job. But on the other hand, within their chosen profession pimps are notoriously process driven, to the point where they even have a phrase for it: “pimping by the book.” Everything has to be by the book. Rules and standards within the pimp game are rigorously followed and enforced, and a good pimp would rather pimp by the book and risk losing a whore here and there in the short run rather than become outcome driven and not pimp by the book in order to get some immediate benefit.

Take for example how pimps deal with what is called a Choosy Suzie. A Choosy Suzie is a whore who keeps jumping from pimp to pimp, always looking to trade up for a better deal or to pit pimps against each other. Pimps have very specific rules about what to do in this situation when they do it by the book. First, the whore must pay a choosing fee to the new pimp, a large sum of money for the right to be his whore. Next, the new pimp must then go to the old pimp and let him know in a civilized fashion that his whore has now chosen him. No hard feelings. Then the new pimp and the whore pick up the whore’s possessions from the old pimp. Now this process serves a few purposes.

First, it makes it pricey for a whore to jump from pimp to pimp. In the regular dating world where the average man has no rules and standards and is often outcome driven, a girl can jump from guy to guy to guy without repercussions, and the guy who has her at any given moment will just celebrate because he is getting some new ass and doesn’t really think of the big picture. Not only will the average guy not make a woman jump hurdles in order to leave her old man for him, he will actually reward her for her disloyalty to him with gifts or affection. He rewards bad behavior and thinks that he is getting out ahead…that is until he gets burned later on in the same way. And of course he can’t figure out why it happened to him. This is the outcome driven thinking and low standards of the typical guy that allowed professional groupie Karrine “Supahead” Steffans to make life hell for so many shortsighted celebrity men with her antics and expose books. By giving the whore a price to pay for jumping ship to him in the form of a monetary investment, the new pimp is making the woman prove that she will not quickly jump ship again like she did with the last pimp. Since she is committing a disloyal act by leaving the last pimp, the only way the new pimp will take her on is if she gives him a display of extra loyalty. What the pimp has effectively done with the choosing fee is create what economists call a sunk cost fallacy, where someone has a greater tendency to stick to an endeavor and ride it out after they have already made a significant investment in time, money or effort. Sometimes a whore also has to pay a leaving fee as well to her old pimp, which further reinforces loyalty.

The second aspect of the “by the book” method of dealing with a Choosy Suzy is that it forces the two pimps to talk face to face. This is very important. Men, think of all the times when you’ve allowed a woman to pit you against another man, whether it’s a stalker ex or another suitor trying to take her from you or just some guy that tried to holler at her in a nightclub. Especially when the woman is the intermediary feeding both sides lines about what the other guy said rather than letting them hear it from each other. There are a lot of women out there that get an ego boost over men fighting over them, and will deliberately escalate a beef between two guys and let the testosterone take over. Not only does it provide her an ego boost but it also makes her the center of competition, thereby raising her value over both suitors. Pimps recognize this aspect of human nature and as a result created the rule of one pimp going over to the other pimp face to face to eliminate the middleman, in this case the whore. This keeps the whore from using exaggeration or “he say, she say” to get two pimps to fight over her, stroke her ego, raise her value and possibly injure each other. And it keeps the power dynamic squarely with the pimps.

The valuable life lessons to take from this are (1) make disloyalty or bad behavior costly, even when you’re the beneficiary of it, or you risk being a victim of the same behavior down the line, and (2) be aware of when you’re being made to dance to someone else’s tune. A lot of people, from bosses to spouses to friends will try to goad you into unnecessary, fruitless battles for their own entertainment or benefit, all the while making you believe you’re in charge of the situation.

Now back to Iceberg:

I started [to game her] when I said, “Bitch, I don’t want a whore with rabbit in her. I want a bitch who wants me for life. You have got to go after that bullshit earlier this morning, you are not that bitch.”

That [game] butchered her and she collapsed into my lap crying and begging to stay. I had a theory about splitting whores. I think they seldom split without a bankroll’.

So, I cracked on her, “Give me that scratch you held, out and maybe I will give you another chance.”

Sure enough she reached into her bosom and drew out close to five bills and handed it to me. No pimp with a brain in his head cuts loose a young beautiful whore with lots of mileage left in her. I let her come back.

Note that Iceberg didn’t just let her come back without jumping a hurdle. It’s a good practice when forgiving someone or taking them back to make them give something up or make a costly gesture. If you let someone do wrong against you and keep forgiving them just for the price of an apology, you send a message about how much bad treatment you will gladly tolerate, and you are guaranteeing that that person will continue to disrespect you again in the future because they realize there will be no repercussions for doing so.

When at long last I was driving toward my hotel I remembered what “Baby” Jones, the master pimp who turned me out, had said about whores like Kim.

“Slim,” he had said, “A pretty Nigger bitch and a white whore are just alike. They both will get in a stable to wreck it and leave the pimp on his ass with no whore. You gotta make ‘em hump hard and fast to stick ‘em for [their money] quick. Slim, pimping ain’t no game of love, so [game] ‘em and keep your [dick] outta ‘em. Any sucker who believe a whore loves him shouldn’t a fell outta his mammy’s ass.”

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“Slim, a pimp is really a whore who has reversed the game on whores. So Slim, be as sweet as the scratch, no sweeter, and always stick a whore for a bundle [of money] before you sex her. A whore ain’t nothing but a trick to a pimp. Don’t let ‘em [game] you. Always get your money in front just like a whore.

Now here one of the biggest misconceptions about pimps gets set straight. People think pimps are all about getting as much sex as possible. Guys go around having sex with anything that moves and brag “I’m a pimp” or “I’m pimping.” Pimps actually have a high amount of sexual discipline and try to keep sex with the whores to a minimum. What the john is to the whore, the whore is to the pimp: a customer. Using economic terms again, the pimp creates a scarcity mindset when it comes to letting whores having sex with him: he makes himself the commodity and raises his own value by having sex with the whores as little as possible. At times in the book Pimp, Iceberg describes how excruciating it can be to resist the urge to have sex with his whores at times, but he realizes that the bigger picture is to maintain his high value at all costs. And additionally, just like the whore won’t have sex with a john unless he pays her first, a pimp will not have sex with his whore under any circumstances unless she pays him first.

And sometimes not even then. Sometimes even when a whore behaves and follows orders there is no guarantee she will be rewarded each time. This is called the intermittent reward method, or random reinforcement method, pioneered by famed psychologist B.F. Skinner with his Skinner Box, and it’s one of the most potent methods of influencing behavior out there, and is the psychological reason why slot machines are so addictive, as described in this NY Times article:

The makers of slot machines may rely on the lure of life-changing jackpots to attract customers, but the machines’ ability to hook so deeply into a player’s cerebral cortex derives from one of the more powerful human feedback mechanisms, a phenomenon behavioral scientists call infrequent random reinforcement, or ”intermittent reward.” Children whose parents consistently shower them with love and attention tend to take that devotion for granted. Those who know they’ll never be rewarded by their parents stop trying after a while. But those who are rewarded only intermittently ? in the fashion of a slot machine ? will often pursue positive outcomes with a persistent tenacity.

Random, unpredictable intermittent rewards are a far better motivator for behavior than consistent, predictable rewards. (By the way, managers are also increasingly experimenting with intermittent reward systems in the workplace to motivate workers, so don’t think you’re immune from this type of brainwashing just because you’re not a lab rat, dog, child or a whore.) By using the powerful behavioral tools of scarcity and intermittent rewards, pimps create a mindset in their women where having sex with the pimp and being deemed worthy by him is the most valuable thing on earth to them. (A lot of men who are “whipped” by their wives are also commonly victims of scarcity and intermittent rewards, so don’t believe it’s just a tool used by misogynists.)

How valuable to the whore is the pimp’s affection, love and, if she’s “lucky,” sex? Well that leads to one last myth about pimps and whores that I’m going to dispel. A whore does not receive a cut of the money she makes. A lot of people assume she does, but she doesn’t. She gives it all to the pimp. Every last cent. His cut is 100%.

Now that is some serious brainwashing.

BONUS EXCERPTS: MALCOLM X ON PIMPS AND PROSTITUTES

The bonus excerpts below are from The Autobiography of Malcolm X : As Told to Alex Haley.

Malcolm X On Wives And Prostitutes:

Domineering, complaining, demanding wives who had just about psychologically castrated their husbands were responsible for the early [client rush to the brothel]. These wives were so disagreeable and had made their man so tense that they were robbed of the satisfaction of being men. To escape this tension and the chance of being ridiculed by his own wife, each of these men had gotten up early and come to a prostitute.The prostitutes had to make it their business to be students of men. They said that after most men passed their virile twenties, they went to bed mainly to satisfy their egos, and because a lot of women don?t understand it that way, they damage and wreck a man?s ego. No matter how little virility a man has to offer, prostitutes make him feel for a time that he is the greatest man in the world. That?s why these prostitutes had that morning rush of business. More wives could keep their husbands if they realized their greatest urge is to be men…

I mean, I?d had so much experience. I had talked to too many prostitutes and mistresses. They knew more about a whole lot of husbands than the wives of those husbands did. The wives always filled their husband?s ears so full of wife complaints that it wasn?t the wives, it was the prostitutes and mistresses who heard the husbands? innermost problems and secrets. They thought of him, and comforted him, and that included listening to him, and so he would tell them everything.

Malcolm X On Pimps vs. Husbands:

Most men, the prostitutes felt, were too easy to push around. Every day these prostitutes heard their customers complaining that they never heard anything but griping from women who were being taken care of and given everything. The prostitutes said that most men needed to know what the pimps knew. A woman should occasionally be babied enough to show her the man had affection, but beyond that she should be treated firmly. These tough women said that it worked with them. All women, by their nature, are fragile and weak: they are attracted to the male in whom they see strength.

Recommended Reading:

The books below all played a role in this piece, with some specifically discussing pimp behavior and philosophies, and others discussing the general human behavior principles that pimps end up exploiting.

This is a follow-up analysis post to this post, which VK, Des and Roissy did a ridiculously good job taking apart in the comments section. Maybe this one was too easy (or the commenters are just too damn good). Anyways, let me see if there’s anything left for me to add. To save you the trouble of going back to the old post, I’ll reproduce the passage here:

From the opening pages of Pimp by Robert Beck (better known as Iceberg Slim) (slang translations provided by me in brackets):

I grinned widely, inside of course. The best pimps keep a steel lid on their emotions and I was one of the iciest. The whores went into fits of giggles at [bottom bitch] Rachel’s shaky witticism [a bottom bitch is the top whore in the stable, the most favored by the pimp and usually considered the most reliable. Usually a seniority position.]. A pimp is happy when his whores giggle. He knows they are still asleep.

I coasted the Hog [car] into the curb outside the hotel where Kim, my newest, prettiest girl, was cribbing. Jesus! I would be glad to drop the last whore off so I could get to my own hotel to nurse my nose with cocaine and be alone. Any good pimp is his own best company. His inner life is so rich with cunning and scheming to out-think his whores.

As Kim got out I said “Goodnight Baby, today is Saturday so I want everybody in the street at noon instead of seven tonight. I said noon, not five minutes after or two minutes after, but at twelve noon sharp I want you down, got it, Baby?”

She didn’t answer, but she did a strange thing. She walked into the street around the Hog [car] to the window on my side. She stood looking at me for a long moment, her beautiful face tense in the dim dawn.

Then in her crisp New England accent she said “Are you coming back to my pad this morning? You haven’t spent a night with me in a month. So come back, Okay?”

A good pimp doesn’t get paid for screwing, he gets his pay for always having the right thing to say to a whore right on lightning tap. I knew my four whores were flapping their ears to get my reaction to this beautiful bitch. A pimp with an overly fine bitch in his stable [group of whores] has to keep his game tight. Whores constantly probe for weakness in a pimp.

I fitted a scary mask on my face and said, in a low deadly voice, “Bitch, are you insane? No bitch in my family calls any shots or muscles me to do anything. Now take your stinking yellow ass upstairs to a bath and some shut eye, and get in the street at noon like I told you.”

The bitch just stood there, her eyes slitted in anger. I could sense she was game to play the string out right there in the street before my whores…I knew the bitch was trying to booby trap me when she spat out her invitation. “Come on, kick my ass. What the hell do I need with a man I only see when he comes to get his money? I’m sick of it all. I don’t dig stables and never will. I know I’m the new bitch who has to prove herself. Well Godamnit, I am sick of this shit. I’m cutting out.”

She stopped for air and lit a cigarette. I was going to blast her ass of when she finished. So, I just sat there staring at her.”

Then she went on…”I am going back to Providence on the next thing smoking.”

She was young, fast with trick appeal galore. She was a pimp’s dream and she knew it. She had tested me with her beef and now she was lying back for a sucker response.

I disappointed her with my cold overlay. I could see her wilt as I said in an icy voice “Listen square-ass Bitch, I have never had a whore I couldn’t do without. I celebrate, Bitch, when a whore leaves me. It gives some worthy bitch a chance to take her place and be a star. You scurvy Bitch, if I shit in your face, you gotta love it and open your mouth wide….”

I went on ruthlessly, “Bitch you are nothing but a funky zero. Before me you had one chili chump [a chili pimp is a low-level pimp with only one whore] with no rep. Nobody except his mother ever heard of the bastard. Yes Bitch, I’ll be back this morning to put your phony ass on the train.”

I rocketed away from the curb. In the rearview mirror I saw Kim walk slowly into the hotel, her shoulders slumped. In the Hog, until I dropped the last whore off you could have heard a mosquito crapping on the moon. I had tested out for them, “solid ice.”

Now for this post, I want to try something different.

This week is a busy week at work, but I’ve been using what free time I have to brainstorm on Pimp Week. Pimp Week is going to be a week of articles where I take something as reprehensible as the second oldest profession and try to show how you can actually derive positive, useful life philosophies from it.

I think it benefits women as much to learn pimp game as it does men, maybe even moreso. The pimp and hooker game to me is just a much more ruthless and clinically efficient version of the dating game, minus a lot of the civility, social correctness and the bullshit. Many of the manipulations a good player or pickup artists uses are just watered down (and legal) manipulation techniques of pimps. If a woman can understand the headgames a pimp uses and the weaknesses of the female nature that he targets and exploits, the techniques of the average pickup artist or player will be a joke to you. Same goes for guys and the hooker/stripper mindset. These women are well-versed in exploiting male weaknesses like ego, sex drive and competitiveness, and if you understand their insights into the male nature, you’ll understand your own general weaknesses with opposite sex much better as well.
To whet your appetite, here are the 48 Laws of Pimping from Pimpin’ Ken:

1. Purse First, Ass Last
2. Get a Name in a Game
3. Don’t Chase ‘Em, Replace ‘Em
4. Keep a Ho in Arrears
5. Prey on the Weak
6. When Pimpin’ Begins, Friendship Ends
7. Pimp the Game
8. Don’t Let Your History Be a Mystery
9. Learn the Rules
10. Plan Your Work and Work Your Plan
11. Avoid Gorillas and Godzillas
12. Ain’t No Love in this Shit
13. Pimp Like You’re Ho-less
14. Better a Turnout than a Burnout
15. Say What You Mean and Mean What You Say
16. Give Motivation and Inspiration
17. Get You A Bottom Bitch
18. Cop and Blow
19. Turn Ho Ends into Dividends
20. Get in a Ho’s Head
21. A Ho Without Instruction Is Headed for Self-Destruction
22. Keep Hoes on Their Toes
23. A Ho Joins A Stable to Ruin It
24. Set the Trend
25. Grind for Your Shine
26. The Game is to be Sold, Not Told
27. Keep Your Game on the Low
28. Be a Leader
29. Play One Ho Against the Next
30. Prosperity over Popularity
31. Look out for Suzy Choosy
32. Turn a Tramp into a Champ
33. Bring Your People With You to theTop
34. Show Respect to Get Respect
35. Trust Nothing but the Game
36. Be Internationally Known, Nationally Recognized, and Locally Accepted
37. Let a Ho Know
38. Wreck a Hater
39. Switch Up
40. Don’t Down ‘Em, Crown ‘Em
41. Keep Your Front Up Till You Come Up
42. Talk Shit and Swallow Spit
43. If You Can See It, You Can Be It
44. You Need Fire and Desire
45. Get Rid of the Word “If”
46. Move and Shake Like a Pimp Shakes
47. Pimpin’ Is What You Do, Not Who You Are
48. Don’t Believe the Hype

These laws come from the book Pimpology: The 48 Laws of the Game by Pimpin’ Ken. It’s not an explicit manual of pimping, but rather an explanation of the general philosophies of pimping explained in ways that show their applicability to all walks of life and different areas like work and friendship. Pretty good read.

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I had a post recently called The Power of Vagueness, which you can find here. In the first post, I focused mostly on vagueness when it came to the political arena and only touched on it slightly in the dating arena. This time around I’m going to go more into the topic of vagueness in dating.

In the mail, I got my issue of the Sports Illustrated Swimsuit Special. (I have an SI subscription.) Most of the girls in it bore me because they seem interchangeable, but this one exotic-looking black girl in it named Quiana Grant caught my eye, and I actually read her interview. One part of it really jumped out at me:

I feel a secret connection with …

Chris Webber because he is mysterious to me. I love the fact that you never hear anything about him anywhere. Even when he was dating Tyra Banks, you didn’t hear anything about him. It’s the unknown. I remember living in D.C., and the Kings came to play the Wizards, and all the ladies were in the hairdresser getting their hair done and I’m like, “What’s going on?” and they told me, “Chris Webber’s coming to town, girl!” That was kind of funny, but he’s actually, um, yeah, he’s pretty great. I was supposed to go to a game when he was playing for Philly, but then he got traded and I thought, nevermind I just wanted to see him.

I love that quote, because it perfectly illustrates what I described in the last vagueness quote. Chris Webber is a good-looking, charismatic, athletic and talented athlete, but he’s intensely private. When he does make a major statement to the public, it carries that much more weight and becomes an event because he so rarely does it. In fact, for a while it even intensified scrutiny of him because the scarcity of information about him make information about him become even more valuable.

But what I really love is how you can tell Quiana Grant has used the half-blank canvas Webber has created and filled in all the blanks herself. She’s taken every dream guy trait she has and has probably assigned them to Webber.

Of course the blank canvas alone isn’t enough. You have to have something on the canvas to attract attention in the first place. If you’re too vague or nondescript you’ll just be ignored. But Webber has the fame, athleticism and good looks that get him in the door. After that, he just has to keep his mouth shut and not fuck it up.

It amazes me how often guys don’t get this. They just talk and talk and campaign with women until they just tell too much about themselves and talk themselves right into the doghouse. Several reasons why this is bad:

1. Unless you are particularly gifted in smooth conversation, you are just increasing the chances you are going to fuck up a good first impression with each sentence you say.
2. It puts the girl on a pedestal if you are trying too hard to impress her, thereby lowering your own value in comparison. When you are talking about how smart you are, how much money you make, how cool you are, all the things that make you great, all you are doing is subconsciously convincing the girl of how great she is because you just met her and are trying to hard to gain her approval. Think about it, you don’t try to convince an ugly person of how good you look, you don’t try to convince a dumb person of how smart you are, and you don’t try to convince an uncool person of how cool you are. You expect them to get it automatically. So if you are trying too hard to convince someone you are cool, the implication is that you consider them to be even cooler. If you are trying too hard to convince someone you are good-looking, you are implying that you already consider them better-looking than you. If you are trying too hard to impress someone with how smart you are, you are implying that you consider them smart enough to judge your intelligence. Good masters don’t openly try to impress students, students openly try to impress masters. When you are too blatant in seeking approval, you broadcast to the people you’re seeking approval from that you consider them your masters. You are now in a “one-down” position from them. They may like you, but they won’t respect you as much as you want.
3. You deprive the woman of her fantasy. If for some reason you conveyed a positive first impression and got her intrigued, it’s because something about you reminded her of one of her fantasies. And each time you open your mouth to talk yourself up or impress her, you just kept painting a picture different from the one she wanted to paint. You promised her the fulfillment of a fantasy with your first impression and now you’re taking it away from her. And of course she’ll resent that, even if it’s on a subconscious level.

See, most guys have women they have no interest in that are incredibly fixated on them. They consider them pests. They make no effort to impress them, yet they stick around. Then they meet women that impress them terribly and they start campaigning hard. They call and text them too much. They watch their phones in hopes they’ll ring. They meet the girl and find her to be interested at first and get confused at why they seem to lose interest with each following interaction. What guys don’t realize is that the aloof, slightly disinterested attitude they affected with the former type of woman is the one they need to affect with the women they really like. If more men could treat the women they really like the same as they treat the ones they want to get rid of, they’d have a much better dating life. (And probably, if they pestered and tried to impress the ones they wanted to get rid of the way they do the ones they obsess over, they’d do a better job of getting rid of them.)

There’s a saying in the pimp community that touches on this concept: “The player with the right clothes can get chose with his mouth closed.” Basically, if you work on your image, whether it’s your clothing, your muscles, your body language and posture, and/or your grooming, all you have to do is work on not saying anything stupid (harder for some guys than you’d think) and being enticingly vague (but not boring) and the woman’s imagination will do all the impressing for you. As long as you don’t do anything blatantly contrary to this image, you’ll be fine.

Addendum: Something else that Chris Webber understands about vagueness: not just being vague about himself but vague about his conquests also. You never see Chris Webber brag about women he’s banging. Never. Sexual bragging is an amateurish thing the average slob does and betrays not only short term thinking but also very poor social intelligence (poor social intelligence is a huge turn-off to women).

Reputation management since time immemorial has always been of paramount importance to a woman. The sluttier a woman’s reputation is, the more her social stock drops. This is why real players rarely brag about conquests for the sake of bragging. They only bring up conquests to prove a larger point. If you get the rep of being that guy who can’t keep his mouth about conquests, women know their reputations won’t be safe with you, and no matter how much they may want you they’ll feel the risk to their reputation isn’t worth it.

Compare this to Wilmer Valderrama, who pulled a truly unmackish move in bragging on the Howard Stern show about sexual conquests. He claimed to have taken Mandy Moore’s virginity, and also:

The 26-year-old claimed Lindsay Lohan was one of the best girls he’s ever slept with, Ashlee Simpson was loud in bed and he rated Jennifer Love Hewitt an “eight” out of ten when it came to sex.

He probably thought it was cool at the time, but he must have realized his mistake because he quickly backpedaled in the press afterwards. Now what are the chances that future up and coming or established starlets are going to risk their reputations for a chance to sleep with Wilmer Valderrama. He’s proven himself to be lacking discretion and social intelligence. He should have learned the lesson of vagueness from Chris Webber.