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		<title>By: T. AKA Ricky Raw</title>
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		<dc:creator>T. AKA Ricky Raw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 11:22:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So em, where in Stockholm are the better places to hang out?  I spent most of my time in Stureplan but discovered places like Sofo only on my very last day unfortunately...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So em, where in Stockholm are the better places to hang out?  I spent most of my time in Stureplan but discovered places like Sofo only on my very last day unfortunately&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: em</title>
		<link>http://therawness.com/my-european-tip-part-5-amsterdam/comment-page-1/#comment-2526</link>
		<dc:creator>em</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 10:47:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>haha, I think I meant &quot;f-buddy&quot;. anyway.. I really appreciate a foreigners look at sthlm nightlife but I just needed to get that out of the system. Stureplan is mating-wise the most conservative blocks in whole Sweden.. we are pretty individualistic when it comes to mating game, and women are very active and most of all, NOT regarded as sluts at all! it?s completely safe to be aggressively about sexual contacts/whatever as a girl here. But personality must be fascinating ( well not in 3. am of course) rather than process. sorry if I nag about this, but it?s really true that its painless to pickup here and girls are almost like boys. but in stureplan, it?s more american/continental were girls are trophys and boys are the supporters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>haha, I think I meant &#8220;f-buddy&#8221;. anyway.. I really appreciate a foreigners look at sthlm nightlife but I just needed to get that out of the system. Stureplan is mating-wise the most conservative blocks in whole Sweden.. we are pretty individualistic when it comes to mating game, and women are very active and most of all, NOT regarded as sluts at all! it?s completely safe to be aggressively about sexual contacts/whatever as a girl here. But personality must be fascinating ( well not in 3. am of course) rather than process. sorry if I nag about this, but it?s really true that its painless to pickup here and girls are almost like boys. but in stureplan, it?s more american/continental were girls are trophys and boys are the supporters.</p>
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		<title>By: em</title>
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		<dc:creator>em</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 10:25:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am swedish, girl and I?m not sure how I would react to the Red Light. In sweden prostitution is regarded criminal, disrespectful to or opressional to women (and men) and indecent and very tabou. I don?t like it as a phenomenon, I find it groce to be emotionally biased from what you do sexually and the creepy thing of &quot;buying&quot; other people?s sexuality. and as a feminist ( well I?m swedish, I run for both sexes rights, though) I also get groced-out about the fact that the whores are women and the whole unequality touch of it. I also think its degrading to men to pay sex with money and treat women as things, even if its a fantasy more than a desperate trick.
In sweden we are very sexually demoralized, lol, and get sexual easily from own iniiative or without money at least. :) I noticed the author has been to stureplan area in stockholm and though I have no judgements, this really is regarded as the shallow districts were most ?thegame?-game lurks. otherwise men don?t pay for women?s drinks alot, we pay or own or spend on each other, sometimes girls on boys. :)
( also I just want to throw in a torch on the sthlm pages, I don?t have a problem with your report at all, but swedish men and women do can conversize and some do it very swagger, stimulating, charming, funny and deep. both sexes! and girls pick up men, and arent regarded as sluts at all, more like cool equal women. just get out of stureplan man! :) ) 
In sweden, this is not a torch though, other culture?s mating games are as interesting, but also in sweden we talk with people of the other sex quite easily without necessarily regarding them as sexual objects, more like a cool person, but then again if they fascinates and appeal you you can easily mate up with them and go home have sex within 10 minutes. maybe they become a partner, maybe a ONS, maybe a pal, maybe a f-body. its totallt equal and the further relationship-ment depends on the person and how you team up and how intrigued you get. but there are no big mating-process whatsoever, there are no etiquettes and no dating-system at all. either you?re a pal, a fuckmate, a girl/boyfriend or something in between or alternating over time. but it?s a matter of personality and not gender mating processes.

funny to hear about the dutch intellectuals. :) 

I am really afraid by the dating games in the US, they seem so gimmicky, although I like the US very much in whole and is inspired of the country. :) but some things seem so conservative, especially equalitywise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am swedish, girl and I?m not sure how I would react to the Red Light. In sweden prostitution is regarded criminal, disrespectful to or opressional to women (and men) and indecent and very tabou. I don?t like it as a phenomenon, I find it groce to be emotionally biased from what you do sexually and the creepy thing of &#8220;buying&#8221; other people?s sexuality. and as a feminist ( well I?m swedish, I run for both sexes rights, though) I also get groced-out about the fact that the whores are women and the whole unequality touch of it. I also think its degrading to men to pay sex with money and treat women as things, even if its a fantasy more than a desperate trick.<br />
In sweden we are very sexually demoralized, lol, and get sexual easily from own iniiative or without money at least. <img src='http://therawness.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  I noticed the author has been to stureplan area in stockholm and though I have no judgements, this really is regarded as the shallow districts were most ?thegame?-game lurks. otherwise men don?t pay for women?s drinks alot, we pay or own or spend on each other, sometimes girls on boys. <img src='http://therawness.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
( also I just want to throw in a torch on the sthlm pages, I don?t have a problem with your report at all, but swedish men and women do can conversize and some do it very swagger, stimulating, charming, funny and deep. both sexes! and girls pick up men, and arent regarded as sluts at all, more like cool equal women. just get out of stureplan man! <img src='http://therawness.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  )<br />
In sweden, this is not a torch though, other culture?s mating games are as interesting, but also in sweden we talk with people of the other sex quite easily without necessarily regarding them as sexual objects, more like a cool person, but then again if they fascinates and appeal you you can easily mate up with them and go home have sex within 10 minutes. maybe they become a partner, maybe a ONS, maybe a pal, maybe a f-body. its totallt equal and the further relationship-ment depends on the person and how you team up and how intrigued you get. but there are no big mating-process whatsoever, there are no etiquettes and no dating-system at all. either you?re a pal, a fuckmate, a girl/boyfriend or something in between or alternating over time. but it?s a matter of personality and not gender mating processes.</p>
<p>funny to hear about the dutch intellectuals. <img src='http://therawness.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>I am really afraid by the dating games in the US, they seem so gimmicky, although I like the US very much in whole and is inspired of the country. <img src='http://therawness.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  but some things seem so conservative, especially equalitywise.</p>
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		<title>By: Carnival of Cities for 1 October 2008 &#124; Trip Delivery</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carnival of Cities for 1 October 2008 &#124; Trip Delivery</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 22:50:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Carnival of Cities for 1 October 2008 &#124; Family Travel Guide</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carnival of Cities for 1 October 2008 &#124; Family Travel Guide</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: random passerby</title>
		<link>http://therawness.com/my-european-tip-part-5-amsterdam/comment-page-1/#comment-1906</link>
		<dc:creator>random passerby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 21:23:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;This doesn?t make it an religious matter of discussion.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
It&#039;s all about religion. Muslims behave a certain way due to their religion, and this makes infidels resent them.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Furthermore saying that a religion that is spread over 50 countries and and over 1.000.000.000 people is a fault is pretty simple isn?t it?&lt;/blockquote&gt;
It&#039;s also pretty simple that the WTC was brought down by airplanes instead of explosives planted by Zionist agents, yet that&#039;s exactly what happened. Not everything is complicated. Again, Muslims exhibit the same pattern of behavior and beliefs no matter where they are.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Comments like saying that THE RELIGION is at fault would make me pretty angry as well&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Of course it does. You&#039;re reacting emotionally, not rationally.

&lt;blockquote&gt;when i would be practising the Ramadan right now and giving part of my income to the poor.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Muslims practise little if any charity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>This doesn?t make it an religious matter of discussion.</p></blockquote>
<p>It&#8217;s all about religion. Muslims behave a certain way due to their religion, and this makes infidels resent them.</p>
<blockquote><p>Furthermore saying that a religion that is spread over 50 countries and and over 1.000.000.000 people is a fault is pretty simple isn?t it?</p></blockquote>
<p>It&#8217;s also pretty simple that the WTC was brought down by airplanes instead of explosives planted by Zionist agents, yet that&#8217;s exactly what happened. Not everything is complicated. Again, Muslims exhibit the same pattern of behavior and beliefs no matter where they are.</p>
<blockquote><p>Comments like saying that THE RELIGION is at fault would make me pretty angry as well</p></blockquote>
<p>Of course it does. You&#8217;re reacting emotionally, not rationally.</p>
<blockquote><p>when i would be practising the Ramadan right now and giving part of my income to the poor.</p></blockquote>
<p>Muslims practise little if any charity.</p>
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		<title>By: Maarten</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maarten</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 12:05:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry man, you missed my point. In Spain the natives have the same attitude about migrants from lest say Latin America. Last time i checked the Muslim religion was not really happening in Guatemala, Costa Rica and Columbia. My point is that the most notable minority, where ever, say in the western world, is treated in and projected in the more or less the same way. This doesn&#039;t make it an religious matter of discussion. 

Furthermore saying that a religion that is spread over 50 countries and and over 1.000.000.000 people is a fault is pretty simple isn&#039;t it? Comments like saying that THE RELIGION is at fault would make me pretty angry as well when i would be practising the Ramadan right now and giving part of my income to the poor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry man, you missed my point. In Spain the natives have the same attitude about migrants from lest say Latin America. Last time i checked the Muslim religion was not really happening in Guatemala, Costa Rica and Columbia. My point is that the most notable minority, where ever, say in the western world, is treated in and projected in the more or less the same way. This doesn&#8217;t make it an religious matter of discussion. </p>
<p>Furthermore saying that a religion that is spread over 50 countries and and over 1.000.000.000 people is a fault is pretty simple isn&#8217;t it? Comments like saying that THE RELIGION is at fault would make me pretty angry as well when i would be practising the Ramadan right now and giving part of my income to the poor.</p>
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		<title>By: random passerby</title>
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		<dc:creator>random passerby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 02:02:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;The discussion is bases on emotions and not on rational/scientific arguments...&lt;/blockquote&gt;
People who defend Islam, Islamization, &quot;multiculturalism&quot; and unchecked mass immigration use purely emotional arguments. Their opponents use rational arguments.

&lt;blockquote&gt;...saying that big group of people, based on religion or nationality, don?t fit in society and should go where they came from.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
That&#039;s because they don&#039;t fit in and don&#039;t want to fit in.

&lt;blockquote&gt;And because of the similarity in treating minorities i think that the discussion is fundamentally wrong blaming the ethnicity or religion, instead we should look at the social-economic part of the problem...&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Socio-economics have nothing to do with it. Muslims have the same pattern of behavior everywhere, even in countries where they form the majority and/or have great wealth. Their religion is at fault.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The discussion is bases on emotions and not on rational/scientific arguments&#8230;</p></blockquote>
<p>People who defend Islam, Islamization, &#8220;multiculturalism&#8221; and unchecked mass immigration use purely emotional arguments. Their opponents use rational arguments.</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8230;saying that big group of people, based on religion or nationality, don?t fit in society and should go where they came from.</p></blockquote>
<p>That&#8217;s because they don&#8217;t fit in and don&#8217;t want to fit in.</p>
<blockquote><p>And because of the similarity in treating minorities i think that the discussion is fundamentally wrong blaming the ethnicity or religion, instead we should look at the social-economic part of the problem&#8230;</p></blockquote>
<p>Socio-economics have nothing to do with it. Muslims have the same pattern of behavior everywhere, even in countries where they form the majority and/or have great wealth. Their religion is at fault.</p>
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		<title>By: T. AKA Ricky Raw</title>
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		<dc:creator>T. AKA Ricky Raw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 01:11:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maarten - You&#039;re not off topic at all.  Quite the opposite actually.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maarten &#8211; You&#8217;re not off topic at all.  Quite the opposite actually.</p>
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		<title>By: Maarten</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maarten</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 01:07:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry Steve!

You are right, the discussion about Muslims is hot, and hot for over 6 years. But what is the discussion about? 

The discussion is bases on emotions and not on rational/scientific arguments, saying that big group of people, based on religion or nationality, don&#039;t fit in society and should go where they came from. Further more are there voices that want to make social convention (how to threat each other) manifest. This is so said, because these voices deny dynamics, plurality and development in society. Politicians score point in the public opinion when using anti-intellectual underbelly statements. This makes the political landscape poor, because the intellectual/political elite doesn&#039;t have any proper answers that have the same implication. Makes me sad and non political. 

Most of this drama happens in the media, on TV and in newspapers but on street level, thank god, not much occurs. 

I think the same thing happens in loads of different societies with a multi ethnic society but still a majority that has the hegemony (hope this last sentence makes any sense). And because of the similarity in treating minorities i think that the discussion is fundamentally wrong blaming the ethnicity or religion, instead we should look at the social-economic part of the problem.......  

Sorry to be so off topic but it is pretty fundamental....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry Steve!</p>
<p>You are right, the discussion about Muslims is hot, and hot for over 6 years. But what is the discussion about? </p>
<p>The discussion is bases on emotions and not on rational/scientific arguments, saying that big group of people, based on religion or nationality, don&#8217;t fit in society and should go where they came from. Further more are there voices that want to make social convention (how to threat each other) manifest. This is so said, because these voices deny dynamics, plurality and development in society. Politicians score point in the public opinion when using anti-intellectual underbelly statements. This makes the political landscape poor, because the intellectual/political elite doesn&#8217;t have any proper answers that have the same implication. Makes me sad and non political. </p>
<p>Most of this drama happens in the media, on TV and in newspapers but on street level, thank god, not much occurs. </p>
<p>I think the same thing happens in loads of different societies with a multi ethnic society but still a majority that has the hegemony (hope this last sentence makes any sense). And because of the similarity in treating minorities i think that the discussion is fundamentally wrong blaming the ethnicity or religion, instead we should look at the social-economic part of the problem&#8230;&#8230;.  </p>
<p>Sorry to be so off topic but it is pretty fundamental&#8230;.</p>
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