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		<title>By: concrete cancer</title>
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		<dc:creator>concrete cancer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 08:25:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn&#039;t read any of the Obama&#039;s books. Well, I&#039;m even not from USA, so that&#039;s why I didn&#039;t even know he wrote any books. But I like Obama, and I surely will find his books online to have them read. I think that he is able to make changes necessary for USA and world to settle down and cool their heads. I see a great potential in Obama, and knowing that he puts his trust on people and science instead on god, is really encouraging. Thumbs up for Obama!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t read any of the Obama&#8217;s books. Well, I&#8217;m even not from USA, so that&#8217;s why I didn&#8217;t even know he wrote any books. But I like Obama, and I surely will find his books online to have them read. I think that he is able to make changes necessary for USA and world to settle down and cool their heads. I see a great potential in Obama, and knowing that he puts his trust on people and science instead on god, is really encouraging. Thumbs up for Obama!</p>
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		<title>By: Clara</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 13:32:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;. . . realize that the content was irrelevant.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;  Wonderful point. It&#039;s like pop music. No one knows what the lyrics are or what the song is about, but we love the music and sing along. Obama understands this. Don&#039;t get me wrong, I support him, but he seems to be the only politician nowadays that connects with people where they are and still has the intellect to deal on a higher level.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;. . . realize that the content was irrelevant.&#8221;</i>  Wonderful point. It&#8217;s like pop music. No one knows what the lyrics are or what the song is about, but we love the music and sing along. Obama understands this. Don&#8217;t get me wrong, I support him, but he seems to be the only politician nowadays that connects with people where they are and still has the intellect to deal on a higher level.</p>
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		<title>By: T. AKA Ricky Raw</title>
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		<dc:creator>T. AKA Ricky Raw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 19:37:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ba1anced, I&#039;ve actually been looking for an online guide to gold and silver for the past few weeks!  This is perfect! Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ba1anced, I&#8217;ve actually been looking for an online guide to gold and silver for the past few weeks!  This is perfect! Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Ba1anced-A Beta with Alpha Tendencies</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ba1anced-A Beta with Alpha Tendencies</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 17:59:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gotcha T. I will buy this book. I have something for you to check out as well. It&#039;s a crash course on our economy and our dependence on debt to survive. Very compelling. Enjoy.

http://goldsilver.com/crash_course.php?video_id=29&amp;cat_id=6&amp;ss=db9e78a42ffd9a36c51cf8e5ab3edcce</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gotcha T. I will buy this book. I have something for you to check out as well. It&#8217;s a crash course on our economy and our dependence on debt to survive. Very compelling. Enjoy.</p>
<p><a href="http://goldsilver.com/crash_course.php?video_id=29&amp;cat_id=6&amp;ss=db9e78a42ffd9a36c51cf8e5ab3edcce" rel="nofollow">http://goldsilver.com/crash_co.....e5ab3edcce</a></p>
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		<title>By: whiskey</title>
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		<dc:creator>whiskey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 05:52:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Somewhat OT: the reason &quot;Dark Knight&quot; sucked was the revenge aspect of the hero (Batman) was not worked out nor was the Joker explained. Some of the comics did a better job -- the Joker is both afraid of and desirous of death which is why he both offers &quot;absurd jokes&quot; to Death to get spared and goads Batman or other superheros to kill him and therefore in death become &quot;immortal.&quot;

Batman is a figure of revenge, an ordinary man outwardly who terrifies villains in secret. That&#039;s revenge. With an explicit moral code.

Women don&#039;t get revenge, not in the male way. Revenge movies never do well with them. While guys get it very well. I suspect the fact that so little in the way of revenge-themed movies has been offered that even Nolan&#039;s poorly executed revenge movie did well. 

As for Obama, should disaster strike, he must satisfy men&#039;s desire for revenge (if not the least of which is preventing a future attack). Women always say revenge never works because for them it does not but for men it does. Women&#039;s power lies in beauty, and compassion, so revenge is irrelevant. Men&#039;s power lies in status, and social standing, so revenge is critical not the least of which is upending an enemy and claiming his place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Somewhat OT: the reason &#8220;Dark Knight&#8221; sucked was the revenge aspect of the hero (Batman) was not worked out nor was the Joker explained. Some of the comics did a better job &#8212; the Joker is both afraid of and desirous of death which is why he both offers &#8220;absurd jokes&#8221; to Death to get spared and goads Batman or other superheros to kill him and therefore in death become &#8220;immortal.&#8221;</p>
<p>Batman is a figure of revenge, an ordinary man outwardly who terrifies villains in secret. That&#8217;s revenge. With an explicit moral code.</p>
<p>Women don&#8217;t get revenge, not in the male way. Revenge movies never do well with them. While guys get it very well. I suspect the fact that so little in the way of revenge-themed movies has been offered that even Nolan&#8217;s poorly executed revenge movie did well. </p>
<p>As for Obama, should disaster strike, he must satisfy men&#8217;s desire for revenge (if not the least of which is preventing a future attack). Women always say revenge never works because for them it does not but for men it does. Women&#8217;s power lies in beauty, and compassion, so revenge is irrelevant. Men&#8217;s power lies in status, and social standing, so revenge is critical not the least of which is upending an enemy and claiming his place.</p>
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		<title>By: whiskey</title>
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		<dc:creator>whiskey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 05:36:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>T -- great post and soemthing to ponder --

Men HATE the Byronic Hero. Now women will always stick with that, particularly single women, but men hate that guy and assuaging Male jealousy is a huge task for any leader. Obama can&#039;t do it, and is likely to lose men in all directions as soon as he has to make decisions.

For example, he can save Detroit and keep those guys working, or go Green and make status-happy single Women happy about saving the Polar Bears. He cannot do both. So either way he&#039;s going to lose something, and his positioning himself as a Byronic Hero or the Return of JFK means someone is going to lose and become his enemy. Period.

Also, circumstances like nuclear proliferation are going to push him hard. He will look monumnentally stupid for saying he wants to kill defense projects and unilaterally disarm with nukes as a good example (women love this) after a city is nuked by a terrorist group &quot;borrowing&quot; one from Pakistan or Iran. His political opponents will play and replay those words and make him look weak and the &quot;woman&#039;s&quot; candidate which he already is sort-of.

Quick how many guys like Justin Timberlake and Leonardo DiCaprio?

Any guy that plays Lord Byron too much makes himself dangerous male enemies. Obama will make them in spades. And no matter how much Katie Couric and the View love him, he has to produce bonafide results to lots of blue collar guys or he is gone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>T &#8212; great post and soemthing to ponder &#8211;</p>
<p>Men HATE the Byronic Hero. Now women will always stick with that, particularly single women, but men hate that guy and assuaging Male jealousy is a huge task for any leader. Obama can&#8217;t do it, and is likely to lose men in all directions as soon as he has to make decisions.</p>
<p>For example, he can save Detroit and keep those guys working, or go Green and make status-happy single Women happy about saving the Polar Bears. He cannot do both. So either way he&#8217;s going to lose something, and his positioning himself as a Byronic Hero or the Return of JFK means someone is going to lose and become his enemy. Period.</p>
<p>Also, circumstances like nuclear proliferation are going to push him hard. He will look monumnentally stupid for saying he wants to kill defense projects and unilaterally disarm with nukes as a good example (women love this) after a city is nuked by a terrorist group &#8220;borrowing&#8221; one from Pakistan or Iran. His political opponents will play and replay those words and make him look weak and the &#8220;woman&#8217;s&#8221; candidate which he already is sort-of.</p>
<p>Quick how many guys like Justin Timberlake and Leonardo DiCaprio?</p>
<p>Any guy that plays Lord Byron too much makes himself dangerous male enemies. Obama will make them in spades. And no matter how much Katie Couric and the View love him, he has to produce bonafide results to lots of blue collar guys or he is gone.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex J.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex J.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 22:18:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Use wikipedia.

If you want real world examples, contrast Russia with, say, Finland over 1917-1990. Contrast Hong Kong with China over 1949-1976. Contrast Singapore with Indonesia since 1959. Contrast Chile with Argentina since 1985. Contrast East and West Germany. Contrast Estonia with Belarus since 1991.

People tend to think about economic matters in terms of fairly splitting up the pie. Once you take growth into account, the size of the pie matters far more. Just compare England in 2008 with England in 1808. The poorest 10% could have their wealth and incomes doubled or halved and it would be a trivial difference compared to the overall growth in that period.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Use wikipedia.</p>
<p>If you want real world examples, contrast Russia with, say, Finland over 1917-1990. Contrast Hong Kong with China over 1949-1976. Contrast Singapore with Indonesia since 1959. Contrast Chile with Argentina since 1985. Contrast East and West Germany. Contrast Estonia with Belarus since 1991.</p>
<p>People tend to think about economic matters in terms of fairly splitting up the pie. Once you take growth into account, the size of the pie matters far more. Just compare England in 2008 with England in 1808. The poorest 10% could have their wealth and incomes doubled or halved and it would be a trivial difference compared to the overall growth in that period.</p>
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		<title>By: T. AKA Ricky Raw</title>
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		<dc:creator>T. AKA Ricky Raw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 19:37:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First off Ba1anced, it&#039;s officially called &quot;Supply Side Economics,&quot; not Trickle Down Economics.  That is a derogatory name for it created by Democrats that the media often uses, but no conservative economists ever actually call it that.  So keep in mind, the moment you see a piece discussing &quot;Trickle Down Economics,&quot; the mere usage of that phrase is a major indicator that you are probably reading a piece written by someone who is biased against it and looking to discredit it.

Anyway, if you want to read a good conservative economics book defending supply side economics and showing them to work, try &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0465002609?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=johnnytriangl-20&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=0465002609&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Thomas Sowell&#039;s Basic Economics&lt;/a&gt; to start off with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First off Ba1anced, it&#8217;s officially called &#8220;Supply Side Economics,&#8221; not Trickle Down Economics.  That is a derogatory name for it created by Democrats that the media often uses, but no conservative economists ever actually call it that.  So keep in mind, the moment you see a piece discussing &#8220;Trickle Down Economics,&#8221; the mere usage of that phrase is a major indicator that you are probably reading a piece written by someone who is biased against it and looking to discredit it.</p>
<p>Anyway, if you want to read a good conservative economics book defending supply side economics and showing them to work, try <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0465002609?ie=UTF8&#038;tag=johnnytriangl-20&#038;linkCode=as2&#038;camp=1789&#038;creative=9325&#038;creativeASIN=0465002609" rel="nofollow">Thomas Sowell&#8217;s Basic Economics</a> to start off with.</p>
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		<title>By: Ba1anced-A Beta with Alpha Tendencies</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ba1anced-A Beta with Alpha Tendencies</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 19:27:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do you guys know of any good conservative books on the u.s. economy, and finance. I hear of conservatives swearing up and down that we are in a mere &quot;transitory state&quot; and that trickle down economy works......if only we would give it more time.....say 50 years at least.

I really want some conservative fiscal policy titles, especially ones tht have real life examples where everybody (who actually worked) benefitted from it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you guys know of any good conservative books on the u.s. economy, and finance. I hear of conservatives swearing up and down that we are in a mere &#8220;transitory state&#8221; and that trickle down economy works&#8230;&#8230;if only we would give it more time&#8230;..say 50 years at least.</p>
<p>I really want some conservative fiscal policy titles, especially ones tht have real life examples where everybody (who actually worked) benefitted from it.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex J.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex J.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 17:34:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A reporter mentioned on the radio that, in contrast to his stage persona, Obama in person is dry and boring. McCain OTOH was dry on stage (eg reads from the teleprompter) but hot-tempered in person.

You&#039;re totally correct that Obama didn&#039;t deal with people in terms of ideas and concepts. I&#039;d say that he engaged people&#039;s emotions and especially their sense of tribalness or groupness. If you think about it, engaging that emotion is one of the services that a head of state provides. McCain (and Hillary) totally fail to provide that emotion that people want to get from their leaders. Hillary came across as someone who desperately wanted to be the president. McCain came across as the geeky kid running for class president who doesn&#039;t realize he has no chance. Obama came across as a baptist preacher whipping his congregation up into a religious frenzy. He did NOT come across as a war leader firing &quot;us&quot; up to defeat &quot;them&quot;. He was all &quot;we&quot;.

From &lt;a href=&quot;http://thinkonthesethings.wordpress.com/2007/12/27/full-text-barack-obama-stump-speech-our-moment-is-now/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Obama&#039;s stump speech&lt;/a&gt; with cynical additions for contrast:
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That?s the future within our reach. That?s what hope is ? that thing inside us that insists, despite all evidence to the contrary, that something better is waiting for us around the corner, my inauguration. But only if we?re willing to work for it and fight for it, and vote for me, and give me money. To shed our fears and our doubts and our cynicism and vote for me. To glory in the task before us of voting for me and of remaking this country into a country with me as its president, block by block, precinct by precinct, county by county, state by state.

There is a moment in the life of every generation when, if we are to make our mark on history, by voting for me, this spirit must break through to my inauguration. 

This is the moment.

This is the moment, to vote for me.

This is our time. 

This is my time to be president.

And if you will stand with me in seven days ? if you will stand for change, changing me from senator to president, so that our children have the same chance that somebody gave us; if you?ll stand to keep the American dream alive for those who still hunger for opportunity and thirst for justice (&lt;i&gt;Sorry, I&#039;m at a loss here.&lt;/i&gt;); if you?re ready to stop settling for what the cynics tell you you must accept: McCain, and finally reach for what you know is possible: me, president, then I will win this caucus, I will win this election, we will change the course of history, I will be president, and the real journey ? to heal a nation and repair the world and put up with me for eight years ? will have truly begun.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A reporter mentioned on the radio that, in contrast to his stage persona, Obama in person is dry and boring. McCain OTOH was dry on stage (eg reads from the teleprompter) but hot-tempered in person.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re totally correct that Obama didn&#8217;t deal with people in terms of ideas and concepts. I&#8217;d say that he engaged people&#8217;s emotions and especially their sense of tribalness or groupness. If you think about it, engaging that emotion is one of the services that a head of state provides. McCain (and Hillary) totally fail to provide that emotion that people want to get from their leaders. Hillary came across as someone who desperately wanted to be the president. McCain came across as the geeky kid running for class president who doesn&#8217;t realize he has no chance. Obama came across as a baptist preacher whipping his congregation up into a religious frenzy. He did NOT come across as a war leader firing &#8220;us&#8221; up to defeat &#8220;them&#8221;. He was all &#8220;we&#8221;.</p>
<p>From <a href="http://thinkonthesethings.wordpress.com/2007/12/27/full-text-barack-obama-stump-speech-our-moment-is-now/" rel="nofollow">Obama&#8217;s stump speech</a> with cynical additions for contrast:</p>
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That?s the future within our reach. That?s what hope is ? that thing inside us that insists, despite all evidence to the contrary, that something better is waiting for us around the corner, my inauguration. But only if we?re willing to work for it and fight for it, and vote for me, and give me money. To shed our fears and our doubts and our cynicism and vote for me. To glory in the task before us of voting for me and of remaking this country into a country with me as its president, block by block, precinct by precinct, county by county, state by state.</p>
<p>There is a moment in the life of every generation when, if we are to make our mark on history, by voting for me, this spirit must break through to my inauguration. </p>
<p>This is the moment.</p>
<p>This is the moment, to vote for me.</p>
<p>This is our time. </p>
<p>This is my time to be president.</p>
<p>And if you will stand with me in seven days ? if you will stand for change, changing me from senator to president, so that our children have the same chance that somebody gave us; if you?ll stand to keep the American dream alive for those who still hunger for opportunity and thirst for justice (<i>Sorry, I&#8217;m at a loss here.</i>); if you?re ready to stop settling for what the cynics tell you you must accept: McCain, and finally reach for what you know is possible: me, president, then I will win this caucus, I will win this election, we will change the course of history, I will be president, and the real journey ? to heal a nation and repair the world and put up with me for eight years ? will have truly begun.
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